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Father
Robert Ballecer: On this episode of know how making rocket fuel out of
sunlight, we answer your questions about building a computer, stabilized
platforms and stream your steam.
Fr.
Robert: Welcome to
know how. It is the twit show where we build, bend, break and upgrade. I'm
Father Robert Ballecer…
Bryan
Burnett: And I’m
Bryan Burnett.
Fr.
Robert: And for the
next our we are going to take you through some of the projects that we have
been working on so that maybe you can geek out in your real life.
Bryan: Don't worry about the time, just
sit back, relax and learn.
Fr.
Robert: Open up your learn holes. We are going to be dumping a lot of stuff
in there. Now, Bryan. You know how we need sunlight?
Bryan: Yeah. That is how I got this sweet
tan that I have.
Fr.
Robert: That is how
I got this sweet sunburn. Sunlight is not just for tanning, it is not just for
sun burning. Did you know you can actually make fuel out of son?
Bryan: Well I understand the concept of
solar power. Photosynthesis?
Fr.
Robert: When we
think of solar power we think about plants turning light energy through
photosynthesis and to the energy they can consume. Or we think of stuff like
this right?
Bryan: That’s the first thing I think of.
Fr.
Robert: Direct
conversion of sunlight into electricity. It is useful and it is kind of cool,
but there is actually a new effort to turn it into a different type of fuel. Specifically into hydrogen. Now check this out. The EU has
funded a project that is attempting to use concentrated sunlight and turn water
and carbon dioxide into jet fuel.
Bryan: That is kind of the dream right? Being able to turn water into fuel.
Fr.
Robert: And all the
ingredients are there. We know that hydrogen is energy packed it there was a
way to get pure hydrogen out of the molecules that it is attached to…
Bryan: The separating part is what’s
difficult.
Fr.
Robert: Typically
when we want to get hydrogen out of water we went electrolytes it. You would
run a positive any negative electrode in the water, you get hydrogen bubbling
off of one side and you get oxygen bubbling off the other side. But you have to
collect it. It is very energy intensive and it is kind of a pain in the butt.
It is not all that efficient. But EU has figured a way around it with a project
they are calling solar jet.
Bryan: That is pretty clever.
Fr.
Robert: The
question is, how does it work right? So imagine this.
You have a pressure vessel. In the pressure vessel you have all this light that
has been collecting with solar collectors, which is a fancy way of saying
mirrors. So they are all focusing light into this pressure vessel. Which has a way of getting the light into the pressure vessel. Physics 101. Whenever you focus a lot of radiated
light energy into a close space you are going to raise the temperature. When
you raise the temperature you are also going to raise the pressure. So now you
have a vessel that is incredibly hot and incredibly dense. Very pressurized
right?
Bryan: Okay. There are a lot of forces at
work there.
Fr.
Robert: A lot of
forces at work in physics, as we know it doesn’t work quite the same so what
they do is they take advantage of that to pump carbon
monoxide, which is CO2, and water vapor, which is H2O, into the pressure
vessel. at those temperatures, at that pressure, it
actually cracks the molecules. What ends up happening is that you can break the
O2 away from carbon dioxide. You break the H2 away from H2O. And instead you
now get carbon monoxide, you get a molecule O2 and a molecule of H2. so for every molecule of H2O and CO2 you get one molecule of
pure hydrogen, one molecule of pure oxygen, and one molecule of carbon
monoxide.
Bryan: Very cool. So it is just splitting
them into little individual parts.
Fr.
Robert: It just
splits them up and they actually form back into those molecules. The cool thing
is you can pump away the hydrogen and now you have pure hydrogen that you can
turn into methanol. in fact this right here is a
device that I got at CPS last year. The whole idea is that it uses a sodium
silicate cartridge to contain hydrogen. It is actually very dense with
hydrogen. When you add water to the sodium silicate and get heat and hydrogen.
The hydrogen just bubbles out. And then it goes into this. This is a magical
device.
Bryan: What is this?
Fr.
Robert: This is a
fuel cell. That is a hydrogen fuel cell.
Bryan: In the only byproduct is water?
Fr.
Robert: Water and
heat. So the way it works is if you pump hydrogen into that little inlet there
you are going to run it through what is called a pem,
which is a proton exchange membrane and you get water, and a small electrical
charge. Well you have a lot of those the membranes this will actually charge an
internal battery which in turn can charge a five volt device.
Bryan: I see that there is a little USB
thing there. That is super cool.
Fr.
Robert: Exactly. So
if we have a process that can take light and turn carbon dioxide and H2O into a
hydrogen fuel source we can now run it through a hydrogen fuel cell.
Brian: I remember a few years ago
Honda made a hydrogen fuel cell powered car. And the only byproduct was water
but the hard part was getting the hydrogen for the fuel cells.
Fr.
Robert: Because piping
hydrogen around the world is dangerous.
Bryan: Yeah, I remember they used to put
it in blimps. If I recall correctly. They didn't call
them solar blimps though did they?
Fr.
Robert: The other
use to this is that you can actually take that H2 and you can make oxygen tetrazine, rocket fuel. which is
like for hydrogens on top of a carbon. I can’t remember the formula.
Bryan: But that is powerful stuff.
Fr.
Robert: Powerful
stuff. But you could take this process and you could directly Use it to create
rocket fuel.
Bryan: Wow! That is pretty cool. Using the sign and basic water to make fuel.
Fr.
Robert: Making fuel
out of nothing at all. Much more efficient than solar cells
and much more flexible too.
Bryan: And then there is also the NIF, the
lab where they use the lasers to make fusions.
Fr.
Robert: That is
different. What they are doing is they are fusing atoms together so, versus
nuclear power as we know it today, is all about fission. It is taking typically
and atom of Uranium 235 and putting it in close proximity to another one,
shooting a neutron at it and splitting it apart, creating two more neutrons
which can then hit other Uranium 235 atoms and creating a chain reaction that
creates heat. Fusion you are actually taking atoms and sliding them together.
Bryan: I think they have had a few
successful tests. But this is cool, using the sun to do this.
Fr.
Robert: It is all
about energy. We love energy.
Bryan: Anything that reduces our carbon
footprint. And hopefully reverses global warming. But that is probably not
really going to happen.
Fr.
Robert: I just want
rocket fuel.
Bryan: Well if we can make enough rocket
fuel…
Fr.
Robert: I don’t
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Bryan: Speaking of streaming things to
multiple devices, what if I told you there was a way to do it with your gaming?
Fr.
Robert: Impossible.
Bryan: On a Mac?
Fr.
Robert: Speaking
witch craft now.
Bryan: Such a downer.
Fr.
Robert: This is
something that has been going for a while right? Remember there was a service
not too long ago that offered this idea of online, where you didn’t need a high
spec computer because essentially what your computer was doing was receiving a
streaming video and all the processing was done at a server far, far away.
Bryan: It was a pipe dream.
Fr.
Robert: It was a
pipe dream that ultimately folded. It died. There was a lot of latency issues,
a lot of performance issues, but are you telling me that maybe we are ready for
another go?
Bryan: We are getting closer. Yes it is
still in Beta but there is something called Steam Streaming that came out
fairly recently and what this allows you to do is use your powerful gaming PC
that you might have at home and send it to a different device. So, for example
I was playing my PC games on my MacBook Air. Which, unfortunately some of the
game you can’t play on Mac. But I was playing Titan Fall. It doesn’t even have
to be a steam game, it can be any game that you have in your steam library on
your list. It is pretty simple and I made a video to show you how to do it.
Fr.
Robert: Ok Bryan,
why don’t you go ahead and blow my mind?
Bryan: So the first step to start
streaming to use Steam is to have it installed on your gaming PC, which is the
host. And then have it also installed on your client, which in my case is my
MacBook Air. In the Steam Preferences under Account you’ll see a box where it
says Beta Participation, click the change button and you’ll be prompted to be
able to change from not using the Beta to Steam Beta Update. Once you check
that and update Steam you should see a new tab saying In Home Streaming. Click
that and if you are on the same network as your host machine it should pop up
right away. This is named Gamers because Padre did that. And that is our gaming
PC. Now we are connected and if you look at my games list it is not just the
games installed on my Mac but also the games that are installed on the gaming
PC. So unfortunately Goat Simulator is not a Mac game, but since I’m streaming
from the gaming PC, I’ll be able to play from my MacBook Air. So I hit the
stream button and you can see it loads up just like it would if I was playing
it on my PC and down in the bottom, left hand corner you can see the resolution
it is set at which I have it set to automatic and let Steam decide. It is 1280
by 720 and I’m getting a solid 60 frames per second. This is over the Twit’s
guest wifi also. I don’t have it hard wired, which
would be the optimum way to do this but you could see the game runs perfectly
smooth and there is no noticeable input leg from the controls. Now that was a
single player game but what if I tried playing a multi-player game? I like to
point out that I am doing this over wifi so it is not
optimal. But now that Game of Thrones is over I was playing a game to get my
fix called Chivalry which is a first person Medieval war
game and there was some lag, but it was definitely playable. When I tried
playing on FPS at home it worked fine. I think because we have a lot of RF
interference at Twit I was getting a little bit of lag. But here you can see
the desktop of my PC and the screen of my MacBook Air and it is near perfect. Even though we are going over wifi. So now you are streaming to the client device that you want. But what if you
have a Mac and you want to use an Xbox controller to play in your living room? Fortunately
there is an option from Tetaboogle, download Xbox 360
drivers that will allow you to use your Xbox controller that you for your PC on
your Mac. Navigate to the website, download the latest drivers and once you
install those and restart your Mac, you can go into system preferences and
there will be an Xbox controller configuration. Which should
already be mapped perfectly with the controller using the triggers, the buttons
and the joysticks. So now you can hook up your laptop to the big TV in
your living room, use the Xbox controller to play it and you’ll be utilizing
your gaming PC in another room and it’ll look better on your TV than even the
Xbox 1. And if you’re a glutton for pain you can play Dark Souls 2 on a MacBook
Air in your living room. So that is Steam Streaming in a nutshell and back to
the studio.
Fr.
Robert: Well, that
actually is really good performance. That is much better than I thought you’d
be able to get.
Bryan: Yeah, it is pretty cool. I’m using
a MacBook Air that doesn’t have crazy graphical specs but it can play Higher definition video. You don’t want to try and find the
most basic piece of hardware that you have in your house but if you have
something a little bit more modern or maybe an old laptop that is playable with
HD video, you can use that. Set it up in your living room and then you can play
games not on your central PC.
Fr.
Robert: That is
actually how I see this. I don’t see this as find the jankiest piece of garbage you having lying around in your den and turn it into a gaming
machine. I’m seeing it as I’ve got a nice Ultra Book which obviously I’m not
going to be playing high frame gaming on but if it is decent enough and
comfortable for me to use, I can make it a game machine leveraging the
equipment I already have on my network.
Bryan: Exactly. And it is so cool to be able
to play on a Mac laptop games that are never going to come out for Mac. The
only this is that when I first heard about this project I was hoping that I
could make a low powered Raspberry Pi for this project but it doesn’t work. It
is only X86 processor.
Fr.
Robert: That could
change though.
Bryan: That could change.
Fr.
Robert: You just
have to recompile the code for arm, which again it is going to take a while and
honestly I don’t know how good of an experience you are going to get off of a
Raspberry Pi. I know Raspberry Pi can receive high definition video just fine
but what has me worried is this. One of the issues of this sort of gaming is
that it’s always been the lag. That is what killed Onlive,
right?
Bryan: Yes. Because you are giving the
input, it is going out and then it is coming back. But I was playing on it in
my bedroom with my laptop and I was playing TitanFall and that is a first person shooter and I wasn’t getting any input lag. They
worked some steam magic.
Fr.
Robert: That is one
of the things where if you are on the home network there should be very little
latency. You’re living on the same wire as the other machine, it’s not like you
are going across the internet. One of the issue I
would be worried about though is that if you are using a wireless device you’d
have to make sure that your wireless network is set up properly. I know you
didn’t have any issues but if you were at a really RF crowded area with a lot
of interference you could possibly run into those infuriating situations where
you are doing some heavy FPS gaming and it lags for just a frame, but it is
enough to get you killed.
Bryan: Right. And that is one of the last
cons is that it is only on your home network. So I can’t play games here at
work from my PC at home.
Fr.
Robert: Although
I’m sure that is going to be happening because think about it. All you’d have
to do is set up a VPN so that you are back in your home network and then to the
Steam system it looks like you’re in the network.
Bryan: I’m sure Padre could figure out a
way to do that.
Fr.
Robert: Actually
that’s not a bad Know How. Okay so we are going to come back and we are going
to show you how to get remote gaming using VPN back into your Steam network.
Bryan: Someone in the chat room asks,
“Well did your MacBook Air get very hot?” Not at all. It
didn’t harpy use any battery life either because it was just accepting the
video. My PC in my room was doing all the work. That is one of the cons though
is the PC that you are using to stream the games you are not going to be able
to use it while you are doing it. It is basically a remote desktop, but for
games.
Fr.
Robert: See with
the remote desktop you can have multiple sessions and still use the desktop. This
is going to lock out the desktop. You can’t do anything while it is streaming. Which I could see a bunch of reasons why they did that.
Bryan: And it is still in Beta. So I did
have a couple of crashes and there was a couple times
I had to walk in the room where my PC was and reboot it and start the game over
and stuff. For the majority it was super smooth and cool.
Fr.
Robert: Super
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Bryan: You know what my favorite part is
about my Squarespace site?
Fr.
Robert: What?
Bryan: Check in how many people have
subscribed. I love looking at the numbers and it says, you have two new subscribers! It is like I should probably keep updating it
then.
Fr.
Robert: You know
what the worst part about that is though? Like saying you have 30 new
subscribers and you haven’t updated your site in like four months?
Bryan: That’s what I was wondering. I have
nowhere near that number.
Fr.
Robert: Okay. Now,
a while that I decided I wanted to start up a project. We were really getting
into the Raspberry Pi and I thought hey I want to make an auto stabilizing
platform.
Bryan: Sure, why not. That shouldn’t be
too difficult.
Fr.
Robert: All you
need is you need some sort of solid-state gyro. Something
that tells you if you are tipping this way or that way. Two axles right? That is really all you need. So I got that, I
got a shield that plugged into the Raspberry Pi and I got this case so I could
build my project inside this case and then build a mount on it for the cameras.
I even got myself a display shield so that I could see all what is going on
inside the Raspberry Pi as I was playing with it. Again a
very versatile computer and just use the GPIO in order to get that information
in. And then it drove a set of two servos that as it tipped this way the
servo would tip it back. The idea was those servers would be installed right
below the case so the case would also be level no matter what I did with it.
Bryan: Right. So if it tipped a little bit
it would tell it to adjust this much to get back to level.
Fr.
Robert: Really
simple right? I almost burned down my house.
Bryan: That’s not the first time that
happened. I’m curious to know how.
Fr.
Robert: Okay, so I
think there was a voltage mismatch somewhere and I actually think my code was
wrong because what it ended up doing was when I tipped it this way it would tip
it even more and I couldn’t figure out because the code looked right. So at
some point I flipped the servo, because I thought maybe I have this wrong. And
it did the same thing, so that is weird. And it started a small fire.
Bryan: Okay. Dude, do you typically have a
fire extinguisher nearby when you start projects because you might want to
start doing that.
Fr.
Robert: It was down
the hall. That was not good. The worst part about it is that I live in a school
in San Francisco and the fire department is 2 blocks down and every time the
school fire alarm comes over they respond and it is $1500.
Bryan: Oh wow. I thought you were going to
say they have your name on file.
Fr.
Robert: So as the
smoke is coming up I throw it out the window and saying, don’t go off, don’t go
off! It didn’t go off but I kept thinking $1500.
Bryan: There goes your pork fund budget
for the month.
Fr.
Robert: And who
would suffer?
Bryan: Me.
Fr.
Robert: Exactly. So
this didn’t work. Which is fine. Failure is always an
option. Sometimes we just need to have a fresh look.
Bryan: It is about the attempt. I like the
idea but the execution needs a little work.
Fr.
Robert: But let me
tell you at NAB 2014 I saw a couple of attempts whose execution was awesome. Let’s
take a look. Every year, everyone who is even remotely connected to content production
comes to one place. The mecca of all things video and audio,
ladies and gentleman, NAB 2014, Las Vegas. We are here at DI and I am
sitting next to Paul. Well, Paul you are holding the Ronin, what is this?
Paul: This is our all new 3 axis camera
stabilization system. It has these kind of modes like you have this smooth
track mode and it is going to translate your movement, your pan, you have your
pitch and besides this standard underslung control mode we have another mode
where you can bring it down like this and this will allow you to get closer to
your body. Most times if you are underslung you are always shooting at your
chest or stomach level you do this. And you suddenly are at eye level. All of
this is all automatically controlled through our complex algorithms and 32 bit
processors. This gimbal system is more consumer friendly, meaning the price
comes down.
Fr.
Robert: You had the
ability to change what it is, the dead lock or the dead band? So you can either
have the camera locked in on a particular object no matter where you move it,
or you can have it slowly follow it so again you get those buttery smooth pans.
Paul: Yeah, that is true. The dead band
can be adjusted based off the app that is all adjusted through the blue tooth
app and you can also control the speed at which your movement translates. We
call that smooth track. So as you pan, you’ll see that it smoothly moves over
instead of a sudden jerk which will translate to a very tricky video. Besides
the app we also have a secondary operator remote control system. So if say one
person holding this or if he attaches to a jib you have remote control
capability of the system.
Fr.
Robert: Okay, brass
tacks. We know that the system is going to run for 4 hours on a charge and I
know this is a prototype so you can’t tell me things like how much it weighs. But
I know it supports, is it 15 or 16 pounds?
Paul: 16 pounds.
Fr.
Robert: So 16
pounds of support. What is the price availability. I
know there are a lot of film makers out there who are going to want this as
soon as possible. Where would they be able to get it, when will they be able to
get it and how much do you think it is going to cost?
Paul: We are not announcing the official
MSRP but we are going to come in under $5000 and it will be released sometime
this quarter.
Fr.
Robert: Here’s a
situation. You’re an amateur content creator and you want those buttery smooth
shots that you would get with a rail or some sort of gyro stabilized platform
but you don’t have the $5000 or $10000 you would need to buy one. Well
thankfully we’ve got Big Balance. Here at Big Balance they are giving everyone
the ability to have those gyro stabilized shots for a fraction of the cost. Now
the idea is simple. Take a handle and put the electronics into is so I can go
360 degrees around this way, 45 degrees forward and back and give me the
switches so I can tilt the camera exactly where I need. Now
the cool thing about this that they design products for every type of camera,
every type of shooter. Everything from the Gazelle
which will give you your camera phone shots all the way up to the Mustang which
will give you sort of the action camera shots to the Husky which will give you
these larger single shot cameras and then ultimately to the Gorilla and the
Brown Bear which will give you your DSLR support. Now, here is the thing
you are going to love. Pricing. You may say it is
going to start at $800 or a $1000. No, it starts at $220 for the Gazelle and
going all the way up to $2800 for the Brown Bear. So you choose the levels of
support you need and the amount of capabilities you want built into your unit. If
you are looking for a steady shot, if you are looking for a way to have your
camera phone, your action camera or your DSLR on that nice buttery smooth
track, go ahead and check Big Balance.
Fr.
Robert: I’m telling
you those Big Balance ones I really, really like those.
Bryan: That’s the one I want. Because immediately I thought of GoPro. I’d use it for my GoPro.
Fr.
Robert: That’s the
thing. The DGI one is nice but it is designed for rad cameras.
Bryan: Right. That’s a little beyond what
I would be able to spend on something.
Fr.
Robert: Exactly. But starting down at $200. Absolutely, why not get one of
those? What I did was I did a practice shot. I put one of the GoPro cameras and I hung it upside down and I ran it along
the floor and it is so smooth it looks like a rail shot.
Bryan: I know you could see in the video
when you were moving around. For that size of a camera that would be awesome.
Fr.
Robert: And as a
bonus, nothing caught on fire when I was using those.
Bryan: Which is unusual. So that was a plus. I’m surprised you get to go to NAB at all.
Fr.
Robert: Don’t tell
Lisa.
Bryan: The bigger one? I need the camera
equipment before I could even buy that.
Fr.
Robert: If I had a
$40,000 camera red camera then a $5000 for a mount sounds totally normal. But if I’m using my camera phone, a GoPro or even a small camcorder that is going to be out of our price range.
Bryan: The majority of the stuff I do is
what I can carry with me and I can carry a GoPro in
my pocket.
Fr.
Robert: So Big
Balance, we’ve reached out to you and if you’re watching this video could we
get like…
Bryan: Are those available now? Because the other one was like a prototype thing.
Fr.
Robert: Alright. Let’s
move on. We’ve got a bit of feedback. Remember how we told you we are going to
break the feedback out of those big feedback episodes. We’ve got one that was a hold over from Dan Simon. He wanted our help in
building his PC. Now his build, he actually gave us a link that showed us the
store that he was going to buy it from. It included an Intel I5, it was a 3.4 Ghz CPU, a course hair liquid CBU cooler so it was one of
those little heat pumps, an Asix motherboard, a
course hair 16 GB 8.2 module of memory, Kingston SSD KC300 SSD, a Western Digital
Black hard drive and an EVGAGTX 780.
Bryan: That is a pretty good set up.
Fr.
Robert: $1500, it
is a solid set up. There are a few things I would change around. Let’s talk
about it. So, he went with an Intel I5 3.4 Ghz. I’m
assuming so that he could free up some of the money to get that EVGAGTX 780. That
is a fantastic card. The problem is that it is a $700 card.
Bryan: That is the majority of his budget
right there.
Fr.
Robert: It is half
of his budget that goes to that. Which is not bad, if you don’t know the 780,
it is basically two 770 glued together.
Bryan: Yeah, that thing is bad ass.
Fr.
Robert: It is bad
ass. But again you are paying a lot and here is the thing. We’ve been fine with
the 770. This thing right here is silky smooth on anything. The only thing the
780 gives you above the 770 at the moment is if you are going to be multi-screen
gaming the 780 is much better at that. Because again it has way more pipelines, it’s got way more shaders,
it makes sense. If you don’t have a multiple monitor set up for gaming, I’m not
saying that you have multiple monitors because everyone has multiple monitors.
Bryan: It is easy to have two monitors and
just use one for gaming. But you are talking about having an array of monitors
that all have the game on it.
Fr.
Robert: And
actually even the 770 could do dual monitor gaming just fine. You’re going to
get maximum resolution on most games but if you were going to do say triple
monitor then you would absolutely need the 780. If you’re not doing that, then
what I would suggest is that you drop the 780, go with the 770. You are going
to save yourself somewhere between $200 and $250 doing that.
Bryan: And then you can drop that towards
the…
Fr.
Robert: The CPU. See
he took an I5. I5’s are good right? But here is the thing. I would always take
an I7 because, for me, he may not be video editing.
Bryan: I also imagine if you are doing a
multi-screen you probably want to do the I7 with the 780.
Fr.
Robert: Right. Right. And look, dropping the 780 and
going with the 770 is going to get you between $200 and $250 back right? Going
from an I5, he had a 4670 to an I7 4790 you are only going to be increasing the
price by about $85. So why not do that? The other thing I would suggest is why
not use that saving to bump up your SSD? Either get something from the Samsung A40 Evil Line. 480 GB, which would double the space of the SSD. Or get two
of the Kingston KC300’s so that you could have the operating system drive and
the gaming dry. Because you had a problem with this right?
Bryan: I did. If you play a game like
Titan fall it is 50 GB. And I run out of space quick when 50 GB is taken up. So
you've really got to decide which games are important to you or have a backup
drive for stuff.
Fr.
Robert: Now he went
ahead and got a Western Digital Black, a rotating drive. So that he could have
extra space. But, actually this is the way I set up my computers. I have a
rotating drive, it is a Western Digital Black because
I like speed. But if I am doing video editing I have a second SSD, a 256 GB or
240 GB SSD in there, which is my video editing drives, all my assets go on
there. You could just as easily use that for all your games.
Bryan: That wouldn’t be too bad. That you
are saying that you recommend maybe the Samsung? Was there one that you had an
issue with?
Fr.
Robert: Yeah, so I
am having problems with the A30’s. I bought four A30’s like 18 months ago and
the last one is dying now.
Bryan: So it’s not like it was a fluke.
You had four.
Fr.
Robert: There is
something with the A30 line.
Bryan: because I know people kind of give
you a bad time about supporting Kingston but they have proved themselves
worthy.
Fr.
Robert: So this is
the Enterprise Drive, this is the reason that I started going with Kingston.
Because I had all of these and all the servers I’ve ever installed. And I have
never replace them. They are really good. They are
very long-lived. This is the one they sent me to upgrade this machine. This is
their Hyper X, it is the 3K version. This thing is
crazy fast. It is like 555 read and 510 write.
Bryan: When it was put in there, I didn’t
know when I turned on the PC.
Fr.
Robert: Because I
didn’t tell you that I had upgraded it.
Bryan: So I push the button and then I am
used to pulling out my phone, checking my watch and then all of a sudden this
screen was just up in Windows 8 was there and I thought, was it already on?
Maybe I should reboot real quick. I rebooted it and it blinked off for a quick
and it came back on. Oh, he put the SSD in.
Fr.
Robert: Again, I
have used by different manufacturers SSD’s. I have used Samsung, Intel,
Kingston, Crucial and OCZ. OCA was a piece of crap. I have no problem saying
that on the stream. That was probably in my machine for a total of 40 minutes
before I pulled it out. Something happened Crucial I
can’t remember what it was, maybe it was a product issue. The Intel’s are
actually rock solid but I wasn't so happy with the price performance. I’m
having a lot of issues with the Samsung’s. Kingstons,
I have not replaced a single SSD yet. And as long as you don’t buy the Value
Line, the value line of all the SSD manufacturers are kind of junk. Buy a decent bottom of the line and you will get great
performance.
Bryan: If you save money on your video
card you can keep the SSD and upgrade your CPU. Because the experience I’ve had
is that if I have a good base of a CPU and hard drive, the GPU cycle of
upcoming card seems to go a little bit faster. So usually my set up is that I
buy a $200 graphics card and then in two years I buy another one. It blows my
old graphics card out of the water.
Fr.
Robert: That is the
thing, if you wait that 780 is going to be a $300 card in a few years.
Bryan: It is the waiting that is hard.
Fr.
Robert: But you are
not going to notice it. Were you longing for the 780 when you were playing on
this?
Bryan: No.
Fr.
Robert: Exactly. Now
one other thing is that he is going with 16 GB of memory. This machine we
upgraded to 32 GB using King stands super crazy fast memory. Which
is nice. We actually have an upcoming episode of Know How where we are
going to show you exactly how much performance you gain from every upgrade. We
changed the video cards, we change the memory, and we’d change the SSD.
Bryan: Incrementally, so that you could
see the actual change in upgrades.
Fr.
Robert: So you will
be able to decide for yourself what you want to upgrade. But for me, I would
say that the first thing that you always upgrade, if you upgrade anything is…
Bryan: Memory.
Fr.
Robert: It is the
easiest one to upgrade. SSD gives you the best price performance and the very
last thing would be the video card. Because that is a big
expense. So I realize, Dan, that we have answered absolutely none of
your questions.
Bryan: We get sidetracked.
Fr.
Robert: We like to
talk. Oh, one last thing. He got the liquid cooler which, I love liquid coolers
but here is the problem. In your set up, your CPU is not going to generate the
most heat.
Bryan: It is going to be your graphics
card.
Fr.
Robert: Yes. So if
you don’t have a heat pump system that has some sort of heat removal device
that goes onto your video card, it is not really doing a whole lot. You are
lowering the temperature of the case but if you really want to get effective it
has got to cover both the CPU and GPU. It’s got to pump it out of the case.
Bryan: Those self-contained water coolers
are pretty slick.
Fr.
Robert: Very slick.
Bryan: If you are not planning on doing a
lot of over clocking, then don’t do it.
Fr.
Robert: Go with the
air cooled. The other thing is that if you have got a water cooled system you
do have to maintain it. Because it can get nasty really easy.
Bryan: I know someone who had an experience
with that. Alex was an early adopter of water cooled.
Fr.
Robert: Alex, how
did that go?
Alex: Parts were leaking it eventually.
And I had crusty blue stuff all over my case.
Bryan: It looked cool, when we first put
it together.
Fr.
Robert: So Alex I
hear doubt water and electrical components they really like each other.
Alex: Oh yeah.
Fr.
Robert: So take it
all for what it is worth I would go with air cooled system unless you’re
willing to spend that extra to go ahead and water cool the GPU as well.
Bryan: Yep. And then go play games.
Fr.
Robert: Now folks
we are going to be adding a new segment here. Something that
I want to do every once in a while along with the feedback. Called the parting shot. Bryan and I are going to be going
around the Internet every once in a while and finding something that is
incredibly cool or incredibly derp.
Bryan: Which there is a lot of.
Fr.
Robert: Now we are
going to do a deep next time but I thought this time we should do a cool. This
is one of the best optical illusions that we have seen this year. This comes to
us from a really slate magazine. take a look at this.
Now it should work over the stream as well. Pick a spot. Pick a single spot on
the screen and just watch it. Do you have your spot Bryant?
Bryan: I've got my spot.
Fr.
Robert: Okay so
what color is that spot?
Bryan: It is teal.
Fr.
Robert: Okay, now
as it flips between horizontal and vertical continue looking at that spot. Does
it look like the color is changing?
Bryan: Yeah, they are changing.
Fr.
Robert: It changes
shade right?
Bryan: Yeah.
Fr.
Robert: No. It
doesn’t. I didn’t believe them so I took this gif and I put it in Adobe Premier
and I sampled the spots and the colors aren’t changing the lines are just
changing from horizontal to vertical. It is persistence of vision that makes
your eyes think that you’ve changed shades.
Bryan: That is messing with me right now.
Fr.
Robert: Absolutely.
So, hey Stream, if you are watching this pick a spot, take a look and if you
don’t believe me go ahead and drop this into your favorite video or photo
editor of choice, sample the colors and it is the exact same color. Okay, stop.
My eyes are hurting.
Bryan: Why do you look blue now?
Fr.
Robert: That might
actually be kind of derp.
Bryan: Let’s wrap it up.
Fr.
Robert: Let's wrap
it up. We’ve done a lot of stuff here. Between your steam machine, between this
old machine, and between almost setting fire to our house, and rocket fuel, I think
it is time to wrap it up.
Bryan: Was that just this episode?
Fr.
Robert: I know,
right?
Bryan: If we didn't have a repository for
all that information how would you ever remember it?
Fr.
Robert: But, we do!
That’s right! We’ve got our show notes. Go to twit.tv/kh,
and there you will see all of our episodes, and more importantly you will see
the show notes attached to those episodes. If you want to find out about that
rocket fuel theme from EU there will be a link to that. If you want to find out
about how I looked at those products at NAB that segment will be there. If you
want to find out where I went to play with Bryan steam machine, jump in and you
will see that as well. Also, you could email us at knowhow@twit.tv.
Bryan, you check that mail right?
Bryan: Oh, not at all.
Fr.
Robert: Me neither.
Bryan: So that probably isn’t best.
Fr.
Robert: Yeah, don’t
do that. Well, what you can do is you can actually find us on our Google Plus
page.
Bryan: There are plenty of other ways to
reach out to us. And the Google Plus page is a great place to share any
projects that you may have built from watching our episodes, or if you have a
question there are a ton of other know what awls on their so you don’t have to
listen to us the whole time.
Fr.
Robert: Please
don’t. Because I don’t.
Bryan: I was twitching from that thing
earlier.
Fr.
Robert: Accent was
looking up at the lights and they look like different colors now. My brain is
weird. Also you can find us on Twitter. If you are not into the Google Plus group
you can find me at twitter.com/padresj, that is @PadreSJ.
Bryan: And I’m Cranky_Hippo.
Fr.
Robert: And also
don’t forget about our TD. The guy who blew up his computer
with liquid cooling.
Alex: Speaking of which, before we go I
have pictures of that night that we did some maintenance on my computer, Bryan,
if you want to share it.
Bryan: it was probably longer ago than I
want to remember.
Alex: There is the computer opened upside
down because we had to drain the system before we took it apart to clean
everything. So I’ll kind of go through here.
Bryan: So you see this, he had coolers for
the CPU…
Alex: And the hard drives.
Fr.
Robert: I love that
hair.
Alex: There we go, we are draining the
system.
Fr.
Robert: Did you
have neon fluid?
Alex: No. It was that whatever blue stuff
that came with it. The coolant. It is almost drained
out, so you can see the crusty blue stuff over on the hard drive.
Bryan: Do people still use that kind of
system?
Fr.
Robert: They do.
Alex: Okay that is good. So it was
leaking out of the connections they are and then dripping down to the bottom of
the case and just making a whole mess of things.
Fr.
Robert: Was this
just liquid cooling or did you actually refrigerate?
Alex: Know, this is liquid.
Bryan: It piped to a fan system on top of
the PC.
Alex: It was a coolant and it was a case
that they made and we modified the top and put their little cooler thing on.
Fr.
Robert: So Alex,
with your experience would you suggest that someone do water cooling?
Alex: No, it is just a pain. It was fun,
but it just wasn’t…
Bryan: Do you think that is what killed
one of your video cards?
Alex: No, they died later.
Bryan: Alex’s machine was a beast when it
first came out. It had dual 78…
Alex: Dual G47800’s. And this was after
we took it apart and cleaned it.
Bryan: And this was the Pentium D right
before they came out with the…
Alex: It was the Pentium D/Pentium 4, the
Pentium extreme. It was the Pentium D with hyper threading.
Bryan: Sadly, it was right before they
announced the Core Duo.
Alex: Right before that.
Bryan: And that was a huge step up.
Alex: Look at all that goo, crusty stuff.
Fr.
Robert: There you
have it folks. That’s how you know that Know How is a good show. Our TD could
be the host.
Bryan: What are you trying to say, Padre?
Fr. Robert: I think we should get
rid of you. Or me.
Bryan: If I disappear…
Fr.
Robert: Until next
time, I’m Father Robert Ballecer.
Bryan: I’m Bryan Burnett.
Fr.
Robert: And now
that you know…
Bryan: Go do it!